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Tuesday, August 2, 2016

Clan Shenachie P.S.

I received a comment from a reader that wanted to add strong recommendations to our last post. Since the comments on the blog don't (yet) display the way I would like them to, I am posting the comment here, and adding my own information received from Roy!


Dorothy Jenkins has left a new comment on your post "Clan Shenachie": 

In an attempt to stress to all McGillivrays how important Roy McGilvray's collection is, I am going to attach a sampling of the information he sent me. By way of introduction to this information, my McGillivray relatives had literally spent years driving around Ontario trying to find where our ancestors had settled. I was lucky enough that my grandmother Catherine Lillian had that one unusual middle name for a McGillivray. When I contacted Roy, he knew in an instant which line I belonged to. Before I contacted Roy, I had only one other solid lead, that being an oral history that my grandfather was one of nine brothers, and that two were named John, also that they lived somewhere in eastern Ontario. I believed I had found the family on the census, but it was Roy who provided me with the valuable information that traced them back to Scotland. For those of you who continue the to ask generally here on the FB page if anyone knows of their own family history, you likely have to do the same sort of thing I did. Gather snippets of information and then start looking through census records yourselves. They are an excellent initial source if information. I spent nearly a year building our tree. I also only added names to the tree at ancestry.caonce I had official government documents to verify the name. As a result, my tree has been recognized by ancestry.ca as a good tree. I have not yet added the names that Roy gave me which tracks the 
family back to Scotland as I still don't have documents, but I am determined to find those ..documents. I intend to dig into records (including municipal) in Glengarry, Ontario and even in Scotland. What I am trying to say is that searching the ancestry is a lot of work, and it can also be expensive. That being said, someone in your family has to be willing to make that commitment. I have traveled everywhere in Ontario, even to the National Archives in Ottawa to get more information about military records. This FB is great for discussing HOW to start searching, but it is the individuals in the family who have to conduct the search themselves - beat the trails and spend a bit of money. I am lucky that in my family, there has been someone from every ancestral line who has taken on this task. I took it on for the McGillivray line. I have not yet even started with the MacRae line. I am also fortunate that my tree is quite large. I have 40 first cousins. As a result, there are others tracing the tree at ancestry.ca, which is also an excellent place to start searching and well worth the fee. I believe Roy to be one of, if not the MOST, important authorities of the McGillivray lines. And as for many, if not most, Americans, it is highly likely that your ancestry searches will also bring you back to Canada. I am uploading the valuable information Roy sent me. 

To sum up, it's important to understand how much work is required to trace the tree, especially if your ancestors, like mine, left Scotland as a result of the clearances. The time I spent on this project was worth every minute. I learned so much about Highland history during this journey.


Adding to Beverly's story, see below for the information Roy provided on my family line. I sent Roy the information that cousin Gary McG and June Leafblad gathered and had added to Rootie.org Website . Now I want to add a disclaimer (sounds better than an excuse lol) that I have not yet reviewed this information well. A quick look tells me it definetly is my family line. There are lots of abbreviations, which Roy has since enlightened me with his system. Contact me for questions on this info or Roy for more info! 
Roy's Website Link


"This is what I have; (I live in Ottawa & was in Lachute a week ago) Let me know of mistakes or if you have more info <1880."

Roy

ALEX (my #32) (MORAY)     b.c 1750     + Janet Nicol
       Wed 14 Dec 1775; Dyke (& for all kids)
       He mason & F. & both d.in '57.
       [IF he was 47 when wed he could be grd-SO Alex 78 + Agnes Leall]
       Desc= Ruth/Ann Strouse   email bounced
          Gary/L McG* is on www.mcgillivray.us  (goto 31)
            5011-184th Ave NW, Anoka, MN  55303  no e-m
            1-612-753-1513
         (see c:\family\contacts for site details)
     Info from his cousin June Leafblad, grd-DO Ed McG
       [There is a Wm b.1842; Thurso, with Angus 6
    =Jim     24 Nov 1776  (mom=?)
        likely + Anne Barron  8 June 1808; Rafford, Moray
         [but Peter in Oz has her 2nd wo Jim in Alex 78]
         [& maybe Jim 44]
        Emigrated to Lachute, Que 1835 (see Don 49)
         '42 census has older fem with son Wm
         She d.1859; Lachute; widow (OPR)
          "History of Lachute" by GR Rigby has much info on
            Barron fam.  Thos B. was 1st Scot settler 1809 & was
          from Morayshire.  He bought up all land where Lachute
          is now.
           =Anne  10/15 Mar'09; Rafford, Moray (all kids)
                   (Dyke is 8mi w)  dad from Upper Pharp
                   (Phorp is 3 mi s of R.)
                  wits= Alex Davidson in Warend, Jim Paul in
                   Bothies, Thos Buie & Pebter Barro, both in
                   Locnavando.
               + Wm Barron  25 July'26; Rafford
                  He wit to mom-in-law's d.in '59
                 She d.18 June'88; 79.  He d.30 Dec'73; 76; cem
           =Isa  10/15 Mar'09 (some Cdn records have her b.1811
               + Thos Stornach
           =John  9/18 Apr'11  dad in Phorp  wits= John Laing
                 in Breach & John Barron in Lochnavandor
           =Wm   4/11 Sept'14  wits= Wm Malker in Baremuir &
                  Wm Bruce in Craigrou
                 '42 census  he F. at Jeruselum.   d.1842/47
               + Mary Loggie   wed 17 Mar'40; Dalesville (5mi
                  from Lachute), Baptist Ch, DO F., 3mi w of D.
                 on 14-9R, she b.Lachute; d.15 Apr'47; Lachute.
                 =John  15 Mar'41; Dalesville.    Presby
                     d.13 Feb'93; Staples, MN  killed while
                     driving his team over RR track
                      + Mary Jane Hudson  wed 5 Dec'64; Brist
                      Que (her res) (or maybe in Ottawa); she
                       b.16 Dec'42; Bristol, DO Henry/Smith H.
                       & Ellen Fairburn; he dairy farmer.  Her
                       family disinherited her for this marr.
                       She d.23 Aug 1933; Tacoma, Wash, bur
                        Staples.  Info from Staples newspaper
                     '71 Kaministikuia, Algoma p.23; he 30 Que,
                        Presby, lumberer; she 28 Que
                       [no other Ont b.m.d links to this family in Pt A]
                     '78 to Duluth; then to Motley
                     '79 Apr 1, to Staples twp, Todd Co, Minn
                        homesteaded on sec'n 22
                       =Wm Henry  4 Nov'65; New Mkt, Ont;
                           + Minnie/Maud Frary  wed 1 May'89
                            he bur Birchdale, Minn
                            He wit in 1934 to bro Alex's b.;
                            he 9yr older; of Birchdale; & 11 
                            yrs older than Ellen when he wit
                            her b. in 1934; his res Sault,
                            Minn.  Both these places are in
                            Koochiching Co (≈Ft Francis, Ont)
                                   6 Ont in '71
                       =Robt/John  19 Nov'67; Thornbury, Ont
                                   4   + Emma Borchart
                           res Alder, Wash
                       =(Ed)/Jim  22 Jan'70; Thornbury
                                   1  + Alice/Pearl Mooney
                           d.20 Dec 1946; Zion City, ILL
                       =Alex  b.28 Jan'74; Pt Arthur, Ont
                            in Spanish/American War.  d.1957
                            + Maud Goodrich  =12 kids  Staples
                       =Ellen/Jane  10 Aug'76; Pt Arthur
                            + Willard Olin
                             She d.1923; Duluth
                       =Fred  16 Dec'71; Pt Arthur d.1943
                             + Minnie Zachow  res Zion City
                       =Benj 26 Aug'79; Staples  d.1942 Staples
                             + Ethel Dobson   res Duluth
                       =Geo (twin to Benj)     res Tacoma, Wash
                       =Mary/Jane (Minnie)  15 Dec'81; Staples
                        =Jim    7 Dec'42
                       =Wm    15 Dec'44
                     d.23 Aug'44 (error); Jerusalem, Que
           ≈Don  b.1816   d.28 Jan'92; Lachute  tombstone says
                 he native of Moray, also to Cda 1835.  He's
                 the only other McG fam at Lachute
                '42 census has him on same p. as Wm
               + Flora Loynachan
                 she d.10 July'77; Lachute, age 44, native
                 =Jane  b.1849; Lachute
                     Maybe the Jean McG (1847-1935) who was
                     2nd wo John/W Todd (1835-1903)
                       = Guy/P  (1886-1967)
                       = Gilbert  (1890-1942)   (Lachute Cem)
                 =John/Loynachan  24 Sept'50; Lachute
                      He d.14 Feb 1927; bur Lachute
                     + Mary McAllister  wed 14 June'82; Lachute
                      She 20 Sept'53-23 Apr 1924
                       =Flo/May  24 Feb'83   + Oliver/J Wood
                           wed c1924; Breadalbane Bapt Ch; she
                           42s b.St Jeruselem res Vankl; he 53w
                           SO Jim & Mary McG
                          She d.13 Dec 1969
                       =Gladys/M  29 Apr'86  + Chas McFaul
                            d.16 Oct 1956   = Don (has Clothing 
                             store in Lachute in 1980's)
                       ≈Agnes (McAllister) McG (d.22 Apr 1922)
                           + Percy Nichols
                 =Simon  25 Jan'51; Lachute
                     + Cath/Walker Craizer  10 Nov'75; Lachute
                       =Edna           5 in '81
                       =Maggie/Robina  3   d.1 Apr'84; 6yr4d
                       ,=Don  9 Apr'52; Lachute
    =Alex    19 July 1778  (mom= ?)  (Likely Alex 95 + Jessie Ralph)
    =Margt  17 Sept 1780  (mom= ?)
    =Isa        10 Mar 1783  (mom= ?)
                  '41 she 45s (really 56) looking after Ross family below
                  '51 she 65s& housekpr to sister Janet's family
                 She d.13 Jan'57; Kintessack, (2nw of Forres) Moray; 74s;
                   wit= John Ross, nephew
    =Janet    7 Aug 1785    + John Ross
                 '41  Kutepack, Dyke (7)p.8;  It appears both parents have d. &
                      her sister Isa is looking after 2 kids; all Y;
                 '51  Kintessack vill, Dyke (2)p.6; Isa 65s is still the
                      housekpr to her nephews, all masons;
                 = John  10/28 Dec'16; Dyke  (McGillevray)  33 mason in '51
                 = Alex  27 May'20  (McGillavray)                 26
                 = Jim     20 Mar'24                                          24
                 = Janet         20 Mar'20               15 in '41
                 = Frederick  23Apr/28 May'28   10                 20


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