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Thursday, July 21, 2016

Clan Shenachie

Let me introduce you to Roy McGilvray


Roy is the self-appointed McGillivray clan 'Shenachie'. In the Scottish language, this was the recorder and reciter of family history, genealogy, traditions, etc.

Roy says, " If anyone knows more about our clan's families I'll gladly give up the title. :-)"        

Here is a link to his website.
A Clan McGilvray / McGillivray Information Site

Rather than trying to explain what Roy has found, and is sharing freely, here is an excerpt from his website.

"For over 20 years, almost full-time, I've gathered data on every
McGilvray / McGillivray (plus the other 30 spelling variations;
McG for short) from everywhere in the world. I've concentrated
on the pre-1880 period as most people should be able to trace
themselves back at least to their grd-parents. As well, the 1880/81
censuses have been indexed on a (W'n) world-wide basis which
should provide a base point for locating your family. Of course,
if you're having problems getting back that far contact me for
help. Be sure and contact all your relatives first so you don't
duplicate what's been done.
I've been to Scotland on at least 20 research trips. I've also done
research in London and some other English archives, and in Ireland,
NZ, most Cdn provinces and a few States. I was a volunteer librarian
at the local Mormons for a few years and know most of their
resources and procedures. I've hired researchers and can advise you
on how to best use them. I've written and self-published a number
of books including an index of all the McG names found in the
common sources, and a history of 'McGilvray of Pennyghael' in
Mull. So, I know a fair amount about our family.
And, if I can't help you,Roy wants to connect  I know others who might.
My knowledge and the data I have collected are available free. All
I ask is that you tell me your pre-1880 family history so I can add
it to my files. I'd also like to know about any mistakes I've made.
And, I'd like to add your name to that file so that any relative who
inquires can note your interest and contact you. I'm amazed at the
increased 'connections' that have come about with email. The
'web' is expanding genealogy tremendously."

Now I want to warn you, Roy's website is not like all the user-friendly, graphic-loaded sites we are used to on the internet. Most of the pages are an index to what Roy has collected. Roy has so very much information there is no way it all can be put on one website, by one person. READ the info he has posted. LEARN what Roy has to offer. And then ASK. Really, ASK! It's worth it. Send Roy an email and tell him what you can about your family, even just a greatgrandfathers/mothers name. He will respond with everything he has on your specific line. Ask him anything; he probably has a great answer! I enjoyed the conversation I had with Roy and expect to continue talking with him as I continue our family research.

Roy wants to help all McGillivrays find their ancestry and also to connect all the McGillivray lines pre-1880.  We sincerely want to document all the current and living McGillivrays. We can record and document and keep you anonymous on the blog if you would like.

Thank you again Janice McGillivray for your input on your family line. 

The McGillivrays sure were prolific!!!

3 comments:

  1. Dorothy Jenkins commented - "Roy McGillivray has a massive amount of information. He relayed to me an oral history via a conversation that someone had with an elder long ago in Ontario. Roy documented the conversation. It is the only way I can trace my family back to Scotland as they came to Canada by ship during the clearances. I have recorded that oral history on the ancestry.ca website."

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  2. Dorothy, that is amazing. I am so glad you found him and that I found him. I hope more take advantage and find out more about their past!

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  3. In an attempt to stress to all McGillivrays how important Roy McGilvray's collection is, I am going to attach a sampling of the information he sent me. By way of introduction to this information, my McGillivray relatives had literally spent years driving around Ontario trying to find where our ancestors had settled. I was lucky enough that my grandmother Catherine Lillian had that one unusual middle name for a McGillivray. When I contacted Roy, he knew in an instant which line I belonged to. Before I contacted Roy, I had only one other solid lead, that being an oral history that my grandfather was one of nine brothers, and that two were named John, also that they lived somewhere in eastern Ontario. I believed I had found the family on the census, but it was Roy who provided me with the valuable information that traced them back to Scotland. For those of you who continue to ask generally here on the FB page if anyone knows of their own family history, you likely have to do the same sort of thing I did. Gather snippets of information and then start looking through census records yourselves. They are an excellent initial source if information. I spent nearly a year building our tree. I also only added names to the tree at ancestry.ca once I had official government documents to verify the name. As a result, my tree has been recognized by ancestry.ca as a good tree. I have not yet added the names that Roy gave me which tracks the family back to Scotland as I still don't have documents, but I am determined to find those documents. I intend to dig into records (including municipal) in Glengarry, Ontario and even in Scotland. What I am trying to say is that searching the ancestry is a lot of work, and it can also be expensive. That being said, someone in your family has to be willing to make that commitment. I have traveled everywhere in Ontario, even to the National Archives in Ottawa to get more information about military records. This FB is great for discussing HOW to start searching, but it is the individuals in the family who have to conduct the search themselves - beat the trails and spend a bit of money. I am lucky that in my family, there has been someone from every ancestral line who has taken on this task. I took it on for the McGillivray line. I have not yet even started with the MacRae line. I am also fortunate that my tree is quite large. I have 40 first cousins. As a result, there are others tracing the tree at ancestry.ca, which is also an excellent place to start searching and well worth the fee. I believe Roy to be one of, if not the MOST, important authorities of the McGillivray lines. And as for many, if not most, Americans, it is highly likely that your ancestry searches will also bring you back to Canada. I am uploading the valuable information Roy sent me. To sum up, it's important to understand how much work is required to trace the tree, especially if your ancestors, like mine, left Scotland as a result of the clearances. The time I spent on this project was worth every minute. I learned so much about Highland history during this journey.

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